Template talk:mark until c++11

"Prior to C++11" would be more accurate than "until C++11". Or maybe just "C++03". Marktsuchida 01:04, 31 March 2013 (PDT)
 * C++03 would say 'first appears in C++03', which is not the same thing at all. What is "Until c++11" ambiguous with? --Cubbi 07:51, 31 March 2013 (PDT)


 * Perhaps it's that "until C++11" doesn't say whether the end of the range is inclusive or not. It seems that "Prior to C++11" could solve this issue. P12 01:40, 1 April 2013 (PDT)


 * Until can be inclusive with dates ("we have until April 15th to file taxes" - it's okay to file on the 15th), but it's usually exclusive with events ("I wanted until six" == I wasn't waiting at 6:01 anymore).. but okay, I weakly agree. is clearer for something that existed in C++98 and/or C++03, but doesn't exist in C++11. --Cubbi 07:28, 1 April 2013 (PDT)


 * I'm the the same boat as Cubbi. I propose we wait and see if other people find "until" confusing; if and when that happens, it's easy enough to switch to "prior to". --Nate 05:25, 2 April 2013 (PDT)


 * +1. --195.60.129.45 14:01, 11 July 2013 (PDT)