User talk:T. Canens




regarding marking cwg1550 and cwg1560 as "amends C++98", I think it would be inconsistent doing it just because clang did. The way I understood the replies when I asked on std-discission, CWG guidance was that their DRs amend the previous standard and LWG guidance was that their DRs don't. Note someone trying to introduce an editorial that marks CWG1560 as a breaking change in C++14 (which is why I made this edit) --Cubbi (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2016 (PST)

IMO clearly not all DRs are just for the immediately previous standard (Ville Voutilainen's first email in the std-discussion thread says "Sometimes it applies to earlier ones as well, in which case the designation is sometimes not quite clear."). Take CWG2000, for example - the <int> in vector<int> clearly should not be a header-name even in C++98. Similarly, P0136R0 (adopted as P0136R1) says that CWG wants to treat the changes as a DR against C++11, not C++14. And then N3922 says that "Direction from EWG is that we consider this a defect in C++14", but both GCC and Clang trunk apply it with -std=c++11 too.

I don't know if CWG keeps some sort of internal record on how far back each DR is supposed to reach, but without access to such a thing I think the best we can do is examining implementations that have implemented the DR at issue and see what each does. If there's an implementation that implements 1550/1560's resolution in C++11 mode but not C++98 mode, I'd support changing it back. T. Canens (talk) 15:58, 8 January 2016 (PST)

I'm pretty sure CWG doesn't have that kind of record (at least it never came up on the reflector or the wiki recently). Come to think of it, if we're going to be practical and say that compilers can apply DRs whenever they please (which would in fact reflect the truth), then the "applies to" column in my defect report table should simply be dropped. The table itself is necessary though, it is there to prevent people from taking a pre-DR standard draft and editing cppreference. --Cubbi (talk) 18:59, 8 January 2016 (PST)
Yeah, the table definitely should stay. I'm not sure about dropping "applies to" as some DRs are apparently not fully retroactive (e.g., GCC and Clang both treat 1-1 is a null pointer constant in C++03 mode, even though they both implement CWG903 in C++11 mode and later), so I think it does have some uses. T. Canens (talk) 12:47, 9 January 2016 (PST)

One Example Per Page?

Hi Canens, You removed the example I added in iterator_traits for two reasons:

  1. one example per page
  2. has little to do with iterator_traits

For (1): Here is a page with two examples:

For (2): I believe showing how one can add iterator_traits to his iterator is important. (I moved one version of the example to std::iterator which is a reasonable place for it, but I still think having a relevant example in iterator_traits has its own value.

Cheers, Amirk (talk) 06:01, 29 June 2016 (PDT)

fixed cpp/iterator/iterator_tags, thanks. --Cubbi (talk) 06:09, 29 June 2016 (PDT)

Text replace

Hi, you've used text replace such as "Text replace - "dsc inc | cpp/experimental/parallelism/dsc algorithm" to "subst:User:T. Canens/null". Wasn't it possible just to use empty replacement target? I'm asking just because I'm interested, not that I think something is wrong :-). Regards. --P12 02:50, 1 February 2017 (PST)

The full text I wanted to get rid of is {{dsc inc | cpp/experimental/parallelism/dsc algorithm | <name of algorithm>}}, i.e., there's a variable component. I tried using a regex but that didn't work for some reason, so a substituted empty template was the simplest. T. Canens (talk) 03:26, 1 February 2017 (PST)

We need a little support at Polish translation

I gathered a small team, and together we are going to translate cppreference into polish (hopefully, all of it). We stumbled across some problems, that we can't solve with default user permissions. We would like to for example update main CSS file, upload a file for lc linking or update the footer (remove some unnecessary links). Is there a way to get some special permissions for polish part of this wiki, like "confirmed user" or "a little moderator" to get these things done? Or could you do it by yourself? We will appreciate any kind of help :) If you need it, I will post full description of what we wanna do on my "discussion" page
Kaznov (talk) 13:17, 19 January 2018 (PST)

If you assemble a list of changes you want me to make, I'll be happy to make it (within reason, of course). T. Canens (talk) 13:19, 19 January 2018 (PST)
I just did, placed it on my discussion page. Thanks in advance! Kaznov (talk) 14:04, 19 January 2018 (PST)
All done. I copied the GeSHi index as well. T. Canens (talk) 14:10, 19 January 2018 (PST)
Thank you very much once again! Kaznov (talk) 14:15, 19 January 2018 (PST)

Could you remove "Portal społeczności" and "Bieżące wydarzenia" links from our footbar? They don't link anywhere, and also these sites can't be created (non-ascii names). Also, please replace the "Pomoc" link with "FAQ" link (the same as on the en version), we will fill it later Kaznov (talk) 14:28, 20 January 2018 (PST)
Also, could you change the link of "edit help" (the one that is on every edit page)? It now links to non-ascii site (that we can't create), please make it link to "Pomoc:Edycja strony". Kaznov (talk) 16:29, 20 January 2018 (PST)

Hmm, I can override the blacklist and create the page for you if that's preferable. Please make a list of pages you want changed/created and what you want it changed to. You can use Special:AllMessages here and on pl to figure out the name(s) of the system message that needs to be changed. T. Canens (talk) 18:04, 20 January 2018 (PST)
Added the changes to my Talk page. Kaznov (talk) 05:10, 21 January 2018 (PST)

Page deletion request

Please delete Talk:cpp/language/overloaded address. --LittleFlower (talk) 06:22, 15 April 2018 (PDT)

copy elision

See the bottom of Talk:cpp/language/copy_elision

Cooper2222 (talk) 22:51, 17 November 2019 (PST)"

Search in Spanish

Is there a way to feed the search engine with search terms in Spanish in For example, if I want to search for pages related with templates (plantillas), I can't, while in it gives back three results.
ticotico (talk) 14:01, 25 May 2020 (PDT)

Yes, by adding it to es:MediaWiki:Cpp-search-list-cpp. If you prepare a list, I'd be happy to add them. However, I'm not sure the search engine's ever been used with non-ASCII characters so if you have them in the search term they may not work... T. Canens (talk) 14:50, 25 May 2020 (PDT)
Could we give it a shot? Let's try with Initialization -->Inicialización. For example:

Inicialización => cpp/language/initialization Inicialización por defecto => cpp/language/default_initialization Inicialización de un valor => cpp/language/value_initialization Inicialización de copia => cpp/language/copy_initialization Inicialización directa => cpp/language/direct_initialization Inicialización de agregado => cpp/language/aggregate_initialization Inicialización de lista => cpp/language/list_initialization Inicialización de referencia => cpp/language/reference_initialization
Otherwise, I'll have to come up with translations without accents :-). If Wikipedia can do it, I think it'll work here, too. Going a bit further, how can I maintain these lists in sync? I can work on an initial translation, submit it to you, and then watch the page, pick up the changes and submit them, or could I be given rights to submit changes?
ticotico (talk) 16:42, 25 May 2020 (PDT)

Added - let's see how it goes. We use a custom search engine (and a very old MediaWiki version) so this is the one thing in which Wikipedia's behavior isn't a good guide. Since the protection on that page is because it lives in a namespace that controls site interfaces, I think it's probably best if you just give me the translations to apply for now. T. Canens (talk) 18:43, 29 May 2020 (PDT)

Search terms for Spanish

I added the list in my page (ljestrada). At your convenience, please add it. I'll check if the accented words can make it or not--most likely I'll have to add links without the accents in this age of skipping them. Thx!
ticotico (talk) 06:48, 26 May 2020 (PDT)

OK, added with this version. T. Canens (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2020 (PDT)
Thx! I'll give it a shot--tomorrow :-)
ticotico (talk) 23:21, 29 May 2020 (PDT)
Just to keep you up to date, it partially works. Once I have a little more time I'll check out the reason and will let you know. Thx again.
ticotico (talk) 07:59, 5 July 2020 (PDT)

basic_string iterator diagrams for translation

Any chance I could get the files for the diagrams for translation to Spanish? I guess I could generate similar ones in Visio/PowerPoint or other tool, but they would not seem that come from the same source.
ticotico (talk) 07:56, 5 July 2020 (PDT)

I think the source is hosted in T. Canens (talk) 18:50, 12 July 2020 (PDT)

Hi, could you please take a look at Talk:Main_Page#Proposal:_add_User:D41D8CD98F/append-support-info.js_for_all_users?

Thanks in advance! --D41D8CD98F (talk) 23:36, 12 April 2023 (PDT)